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New Arizona Law Effective Despite BS

April 29, 2010

Earlier this week Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a law making it a state crime to be an illegal immigrant in the USA.  While that sounds redundant, it allows Arizona to enforce the immigration laws that the federal government ignores. 

Opponents argue that the new law is unjust, unfair and violates offenders’ constitutional rights through racial profiling.  This is, of course, bullshit.  There is nothing unjust or unfair about enforcing immigration law.  And there is no constitutional right that prohibits investigation, arrest and punishment of violators of immigration law.

Supporters claim there will be no racial profiling used in the enforcement of the new law.  This is also bullshit.  Even though the law does state racial profiling is prohibited, in practice it will happen.  It’s inevitable.  The Arizona State Police are going to check the day laborers standing outside of Home Depot,  farm laborers and street vendors that can’t speak english.  Immigration law would be impossible to enforce without exactly that sort of profiling. 

Despite all the BS, the Arizona law is already showing positive results.  Illegal immigrants, fearful of arrest and deportation, are moving out of the state before the law goes into effect.  This is exactly what legal residents of Arizona want.   Where will they go?   To another state, most likely.  California is already putting out the welcome mat.

4 Comments leave one →
  1. Kenneth permalink
    May 1, 2010 10:04 pm

    Positive? That depends on who you ask, doesnt it? My problem isnt that the offenders of the immigration law are having their constitutional rights violated, it’s that legal residents of Arizona will have their consttutional rigts violated. If you are dark skinned and talk to people on the corner, then you could look like an illegal, so you need to show your papers. Sound a little bit like the Nazi’s treatment of “outsiders” in Hitler’s Germany to you? Even worse when you realize that hispanics make up 25% of their population, and the majority of those numbers were people born here… meaning that have as much right not to be harrassed as the crusty white people signing this bill. Racial Profiling is “no big deal” as long as you’re not the one having to prove you have a right to be here because of the color of your skin.

    The second problem I have with this, is how it’s being touted as a positive by the right wing. Why is the right , who was previously taking the healthcare stance as “inconstitutional” now, less than 2 months later throwing the constitution into the wind? Seems a bit short-sighted if you ask me. The 4th amendment says we cant be held for unreasonable search and seizure. Forcing someone to prove they’re a citizen because they dont speak a specific language in a country that has no official language is a bit unreasonable. The first part of the 14th amendment states that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

    The third issue is that it doesnt address a very real problem. Every great civilization throughout history has built up economically through, (dare I get controversial?) slavery. Romans, Chinese, Egyptians and Americans have all used some form of slavery. The problem is now, that we have evolved past the want to own people, but not past the need. The southern United States economy declined greatly after the abolition of american slavery. In the west, Illegals were often overlooked because it resolved the problem of, “who’s gunna work these jobs for crap pay that we upper class dont wanna do?’.

    But NOW, all of a sudden it’s an issue? Crime’s out of control? Blame the Mexicans! Need to stir up anger to get the old white guy elected? Blame the Mexicans! It doesnt solve the problem of why we were so lax in letting these people over here in the first place.

    But I guess in politics, it’s not the point of solving problems…. it’s how to get elected. Blame the other guy.

  2. May 2, 2010 6:01 pm

    I don’t see how the 14th amendment has anything to do with this law except to support it and make sure it is applied fairly. The law simply expands the right of a police officer to arrest someone without a warrant to suspected illegal immigration. Currently, if a group of 10 people are standing in a circle and 8 of them are smoking pot, officers may arrest all 10 and later release the non-criminals. Or the non-criminals may be tried and usually innocent people are found to be innocent in our system of justice. But police still have to have probable cause to arrest for illegal immigration. Being brown skinned would not be considered probable cause. This law unties their hands to actually enforce a law that is on the books. Nobody’s rights are being violated, but stupidly some people hang out in the vicinity of crime and suffer the consequences.

    Also, the vast majority of people support immigration, just not sneaking across the border. It is a crime and crime is crime. Period. Truly, the left in this country want to pass an amnesty bill for purely political reasons so they can be the Latino heroes and get their votes. It has nothing to do with compassion. You say it’s about getting elected. You’re right. This is the left’s ultimate power grab.

    As far as labor, the only thing I wish it added was some sort of a criminal penalty for someone who hires an illegal immigrant. That would make it a completely fair bill.

    It is unfortunate that the states feel forced to pass legislation like this because the federal government doesn’t want to make a tough vote on much of anything due to political expediency. However, maybe getting back to states rights isn’t a bad thing.

  3. May 3, 2010 12:01 pm

    “Supporters claim there will be no racial profiling used in the enforcement of the new law. This is also bullshit. Even though the law does state racial profiling is prohibited, in practice it will happen. It’s inevitable. The Arizona State Police are going to check the day laborers standing outside of Home Depot, farm laborers and street vendors that can’t speak english. Immigration law would be impossible to enforce without exactly that sort of profiling.”

    People keep saying this, and after having read the law, I don’t know where they’re getting it from. The law doesn’t require cops to investigate the status of anybody they see whom they think might be an immigrant. It only obliges them to ascertain status after 1) they are already dealing with the person due to some other legal matter and 2) in the course of dealing with the person, plain, objective facts of the matter suggest that the person may be here illegally.

    It’s unlikely that racial profiling would ever need to come into play. A typical scenario under this law would probably look something like this: A cop pulls somebody over for, say, a traffic violation. The first thing the cop is going to want is to see some ID. Check Arizona’s drivers license requirements, and you’ll see that you pretty much have to be a citizen to get a license; an illegal immigrant won’t have one. In the course of determining the driver’s identity, some identification is going to have to turn up at some point.

    Now, the Mexican consulate issues to its citizens in America photo IDs that establish their citizens’ name, adress, and so on. Illegals get these too; they use them to qualify for welfare programs. (Even privately run programs need to keep track of who’s who, because they often have geographical limits on who can qualify. I work for a church-run assistance program, and I see these IDs a lot.) Certain other foreign governments issue similar IDs. If somebody gets pulled over for a traffic violation, he has no license, and one of these foreign ID cards is all he can produce, then it is more than reasonable to suspect that he is probably an immigrant.

    The police in Arizona are now required to follow up on such a case, and determine the suspect’s actual status. Questions of race never enter the picture because this all originated from– in this example– a bona fide traffic stop. Had the immigrant in question never gotten pulled over for something, then his immigration status would never be questioned, and he would continue on his merry way.

  4. May 3, 2010 7:31 pm

    The process of profiling is a way to identify, by general criteria, a pool of suspects that match a particular crime. If the law in question is immigration, the logical profile of a violator would likely include things like the inability to speak english and a “foreign” appearance or mannerisms. This is really obvious stuff and there isn’t anything wrong with it at all. Pretending it isn’t is politically correct nonsense.

    That said, your description of how the law will be enforced is absolutely correct. Law enforcement won’t start busting down peoples’ doors because they look hispanic. There won’t be any raids of Taco Bell or Cinco de Mayo parties. And no one will get hauled off for possession of a suspicious pinata.

    The only thing that the law does is allow the state and local government to initiate enforcement of existing federal immigration law, check IDs, etc. If suspects are arrested, they are transferred to federal law enforcement and will recieve due process. The real surprise is that the state and local police didn’t have that ability all along.

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